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Back to School

Journal Entry: Mon Aug 15, 2011, 2:21 PM
:icontechgnotic:



They are the three words that roil the senses like no others, that stir an inner emotional stew of mixed emotions that inscribes us, for both good and bad, for a lifetime. It's the inevitable arrival of late summer and the call to the classrooms that makes us tremulously anticipate the new anxieties and challenges that are about to be sprung upon us – but also the sweet rewards of ascending to new levels in pursuit of a life goal. For visual artists on their personal missions to achieving their own unique visions of success, in art and life, it is once again time to seek out the guiding wisdom of the old masters as well as the new kids with all the new tricks of the trade.


Featured Artist, Lindsay Rapp

Linday Rapp is an aspiring artist enrolled in not one, but two universities simultaneously this fall including the prestigious Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts and Ivy League school, UPenn both in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. So I thought she might be a good candidate to answer some questions about art education and the unique pressures of this time of year for anyone about to hit the books once again.














Guest Interview

A Few Questions For Lindsay Rapp

By $techgnotic




Lindsay Rapp was kind enough to answer some questions I had for her about her art and let me share the Q and A with all interested deviants:




techgnotic:

How much of your art is of purely aesthetic purpose (simply to be enjoyed), and how much is it about a message to the viewer?



LindsayRapp:

Art is a constant learning process of growth within an artist. I cannot imagine ever becoming so good that you have nothing more to learn in creating a brilliant piece of artwork. Even Michelangelo had a mentor to develop and improve his talents. So, going to an Art School has stretched me on so many levels. When I first decided to attend an Art School, I expected to learn an instructor's technical skills while expanding my own horizons of how I envisioned art.


However, not only have I been able to enhance my technical skills, but I have also learned more about the theory of art and even the psychology of art which actually gave me more insight about myself as an artist. While attending an art school, I have gained a confidence to trust my gut and take more risks. What was particularly surprising for me, in terms of attending an art school, is how I am constantly learning from my surrounding art students just as much as from my instructors.


The students tend to inspire each other. I find myself consistently being broken down and then inspired. It is an ongoing process of building, breaking down, and then building to new heights. The experience of attending an art class envelops me with encouragement to push myself beyond current expectations and make every effort to take my work to a higher level. It is truly an amazing, blossoming process. I feel confident that my decision to attend art school has enabled me to take my artwork to new levels.












Street Skate Boarders by LindsayRapp
River Dancer by LindsayRapp
Wave Riding by LindsayRapp
Waiting for the Parade by LindsayRapp








techgnotic:

Has it been challenging to attend two different schools simultaneously?



LindsayRapp:

Yes, it is extremely difficult. I am much more artistically minded than academically minded. I keep in mind, however, that the process of educating myself affects my art in positive ways. Taking liberal arts studies has given me a solid work ethic and has stimulated my perspectives of the world when I go back to my easel. Admittedly, it also serves to enforce my choice of passion — for I would much rather find myself behind an easel than behind a desk working in a cubicle. I, therefore, am motivated to excel. The classes at Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts are enlightening and enriching, and I find myself surrounded by extremely talented students from all around the world. On the other hand, in attending classes at the University of Pennsylvania, I have been faced with the most difficult classes I have ever taken. The students at UPENN inspire me with their brilliance and dedication to exceed. I must work very hard academically to stay in step with those exceptional students. It is a different world between those two schools. I am constantly going back and forth between the world of the Ivy League "preps" and the art student "hipsters."


Both worlds have enabled me to develop my outlook into the world. I feel so fortunate to have this balance of people and perspectives with these different schools. I have really connected to people at both schools and love each campus for different reasons. I truly could not have asked for a better college experience –attending a gorgeous Ivy League college, like the University of Pennsylvania with its beautiful campus and traditional ways, while attending the first art school of the country, Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Art, with its prestigious background, instructors and amazing students. It is a lot of stress sometimes, but it is such an awesome experience. I cannot begin to describe how truly fortunate I feel to have this wonderful opportunity to stretch my talents and my mind by attending these schools simultaneously.








techgnotic:

Do you think art history and art theory are as important for aspiring artists to learn about as basic mechanics like composition and technique?



LindsayRapp:

I absolutely do. First and foremost, art is all about expression. But the fundamental elements to express yourself in an effective way calls for Theory, concept and technique. Neither one should stand on its own—all three give strength to a piece of work.



techgnotic:

How did you go about finding the best art school(s) for your own needs?



LindsayRapp:

The most helpful and revealing ways that I learned about a school was to visit the school and actually talk to the attending students. I do not think that you get a true read for a school with a student tour guide with their "canned speeches." The actual students are the most candid in their descriptions of how the school really is. I also found it helpful to learn about specific department interests. Personally, my interest lies within the painting department. I found by asking questions to students with my department of interest, I was able to gather a true analysis of the school. It is important to visit the schools so that you are able to take this approach. Also, while visiting the schools, it is necessary to pay close attention to the student artwork. Do not be afraid to ask questions to both students and teachers. I actually asked students about their favorite teachers and why they considered them their favorites. I asked about the teachers in general; and asked about various homework assignments. Talking to teachers was revealing as well. I discovered their focus and gained insight on what they like to teach, see, do, and do not do, within a classroom environment.













"Art is a constant learning process of growth within an artist. I cannot imagine ever becoming so good that you have nothing more to learn in creating a brilliant piece of artwork."









techgnotic:

You're a real renaissance artist, being not only a painter but also a sculptor and also working in photography. Are there even more media that you want to work with? Which is your favorite—and are there special pleasures and rewards for you unique to each medium?



LindsayRapp:

At school, I declared my major as painting, and decided not to have a minor in order to concentrate more on my major while keeping sculpting as a more free, fun extra art class to take. Photography is not offered at PAFA---which is unfortunate for me. However, I am planning on taking a digital photography course at UPENN, which has fabulous instructors. I am fascinated by all forms of art. I gravitated towards painting early in my life (eleven years old); and it has stuck with me. It, therefore, seemed natural to declare myself as a painting major. I actually won awards in a variety of mediums—sculpting, charcoal, water colors, pastels, acrylics, and oils. Each offers its own advantages and disadvantages. All in all, however, I tend to prefer oils.



techgnotic:

How would you assess the impact of deviantART in its educational role amongst aspiring artists? Besides actual tutorials, do you think simply having access to communication with other artists is a key to becoming an artist? How important is the feeling of being supported by other students of the arts to the struggling artist?



LindsayRapp:

deviantART is amazing. I love the feedback/critics/and encouragement on this site. It is remarkable how much feedback that is generated, as well as how much activity takes place on this site. It is discouraging when there are people around who do not understand or support your artwork, deviantART let's artists know there are still other people and artists in the world who do support you, believe in your work, and truly appreciate the work. It is tremendously helpful to be given feedback from other artists. Communication is absolutely a key in art. Art is a language within itself, and if your artwork reaches out and speaks to someone, it is truly rewarding to be given that response and feedback. In college, half of its benefit is communicating with others, creating a lifetime of contacts and connections, and exchanging critiques and feedback. DeviantART supplies that type of networking and critique exchange. It is a wonderful site that I think every artist needs.








techgnotic:

What's on your course schedule for the upcoming semester? Which courses are degree requirements and which ones are all about your enquiring mind's burning need to know? Is there one in particular you are especially looking forward to or one that you are not looking forward to at all?



LindsayRapp:

I am looking forward to every single one of my art classes at PAFA, honestly. I am such an art nerd! The only classes I really dread are my liberal art classes at UPENN. I am not as academic as I am artistic and when you add the level of brilliance with Ivy League students and professors, I get intimidated. I am stubborn enough to stick it out, even on the days that I ask myself, "Why?" It is those days that I stop and reflect on this incredible path that I embarked from the start. The UPENN degree will help me stand apart to be recognized as a credible, knowledgeable artist. Art has opened up this opportunity to be a part of UPENN and it offers me an education that is better and more thorough that I could possibly ask for. This superior education encourages deep thinking, provokes imagination and great goals, and offers inspiration to my artwork. All of which keeps me on my path with my passion for art. So, even with the extra demands of a competitive institution as UPENN, I do not consider it a hindrance to my art path. It all contributes to my growth as an artist.



techgnotic:

Would you like to teach art someday? Or as an artist, like every artist, aren't you an art teacher anyway, instructing those who follow you by example if not by actual in-person instruction?



LindsayRapp:

Art is a wonderful thing where teachers and students alike learn from each other. As I mentioned earlier, art is a constant learning process. There is no ceiling or peak where you finally have "arrived" and know all there is to know about art. It is a life-long quest acquiring, sharing, and exchanging knowledge. Currently, I am trying to maintain an open mind about my future. I am not opposed to becoming an art teacher, as I would consider it a privilege to share what I have learned to the fresh eyes of young students embarking on their art path. We will just have to see where my art path ultimately leads me.










Fishing by LindsayRapp
Street Skate Boarders by LindsayRapp
11:11 by LindsayRapp













techgnotic:

What advice would you give to an aspiring artist who is currently considering art school?



LindsayRapp:

I would definitely suggest going to the art school. It is important to determine which direction you are leaning in your art path---whether it is music, writing, painting, animation, photography, graphics, sculpting, or whatever. The aspiring artist should concentrate on finding a school that has an excellent department in their field of choice. They should try to visit the school, if possible; ask to sit in on a class; and do not be afraid to ask questions afterwards to the students and/or the teachers. I visited colleges from Massachusetts down to Miami. It was worth it for me as I was confident in my final decision—even considering I was attending a college far from home. If you cannot visit all the colleges that interest you, seek out students from that college on facebook. Facebook could be a good resource in your quest to get a good read on a school. It is amazing how willing people are to offer help and advice.


After all, I am sure that they remember being just as confused and uncertain when they were embarking on their quest to find the perfect college for themselves. College is all about finding yourself, and how you will fit into the world. I would encourage all aspiring artists to seek a college that will best direct you to the person and, specifically, the artist that you desire to become. Look at the students, the teachers, the general attitude. Imagine the feeling of being at that particular school, at that particular location, and being a part of the artwork created by the students of that school. Look at the actual artwork being generated from that school, the school's reputation, and for what that school is known.


Ask yourself if this is something you want to become a part of? Every school has its pros and cons; therefore, consider your priorities to help sort through the pros and cons in making your decision. This process will better enable you to feel confident that you made the best choice for your art path as well as the most beneficial choice for your overall future. For me, I did not think that a university alone could satisfy my quest to be a successful painter. I needed to attend an institution that excelled in painting where the paintings generated by graduating students were impressive giving these graduates the best position for a successful future. I also wanted a college experience offered by a university. The journey to achieve such a unique criteria brought me to Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts with a dual enrollment at the University of Pennsylvania---two excellent and challenging institutions.












"I would definitely suggest going to the art school. It is important to determine which direction you are leaning in your art path..."








Feedback

Questions for deviants going back to art school:




  1. How well do you feel that the arts institution in which you are currently enrolled is serving your intended purpose?  
  2. What is your advice to other deviants considering enrollment in an arts school?





Questions for deviants going back to general public or private high school or college:




  1. How much emphasis is placed on the arts as an essential part of any student's general education in your school?
  2. In your art classes, do you feel you are acquiring the skills and information that could lead to a real career in the arts?
  3. Is your art education mainly academic or does it include current useful real world applicability to serve your needs?













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Fate4Destiny Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Student Writer
At my school, to pass high school you needed a credit in art, music, or drama. Some people took a class each year, for example art each year until graduation. I just took a native american art class then stuck to math and science :) and on that fact i should just leave this conversation as i never took an art class that didn't involve finger painting
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Tomolan Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2011
Yow! And I thought I had lots of stuff to paint and draw with...
Good interview.
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Naishacat-oFT0 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2011
sooo excited for school, I'm completely ready! ^^
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BernalMartin Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011  Student Artist
School School School school school school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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EmsiMeritt-chan Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011  Student General Artist
(Bearing in mind I'm in the British education system)
3. I went to a public high-school(thankfully escaped), and while there was an emphasis on arts, it was mostly along the Design/Technology curriculum, though i was blessed with a brilliant art teacher who helped feed a lifelong passion. There was also some emphasis on music, but not as much, as a gain, Design/Technology subjects like woodwork.

At my college, there is a huge arts department, almost half the student body consists of Fine Art/Music/Drama & Theatre and Design students, with students art work constantly on display around the buildings, so i feel my college puts major emphasis on how important the Arts are.

4. AT college, yes i feel i am. I learn new skills, and have been prompted to go outside my comfort zone when it comes to my work. Also, i am currently considering universities offering arts courses, as i wish to become a college Art tutor :3

5. My art education in college is mainly academic(i think. We don't create pieces to be sold)though pieces are occasionally entered for galleries. However, using skills I've built up through art, I am occasionally being paid for a drawing, or a design that someone wants.
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VampireHeart518 Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
1. I graduaded from highschool last year (I went to a music school&highschool - for anyone who wants to know how that ''works'', just ask me).
Anyhow, now I'll be in my 2nd year at the University of Music in Bucharest (capital of Romania), where I'm studying composition (classical composition).
Highschool served my intended purpose, in certain ways... not fully. (I knew what I wanted to do since I was 6; that's when I first started to make songs on the piano; I can't say ''write'' as I didn't even know the notes well, but it wasn't improvisation, because I could remember the songs and could reproduce them at any moment)
Studying the piano was really useful - and beautiful :) - and, of course, all the other musical stuff was useful too, but wasn't enough, I had to take lessons apart from school, mostly because my school was more about instruments and interprets; there was really no ''starting point'' for someone who wanted to be a composer, conductor or musicologist... I mean, yeah, we had musical theory, music history and others related, but they weren't enough, especially because we should've had those classes for more years then we did...


2. Advice... if you're really, REALLY passionate about it, that's all that matters. Of course you'll have to work hard, but you will not feel it like actual work. And if you're really good at something, you won't be starving... If the situation is that your parents disagree with this wish of yours, you really have to make them see your perspective and how important it is to you, but do that calmly and think it through before having the serious talk with your folks.
On the other hand, if your parents are the only ones who want you to do art... then, again, you have to make them understand what you really want.
Though, I must say, artistic education can be useful to anyone, if you keep an open mind.


3. My highschool, having the study of music as its priority... well... that's it, the emphasis was on music.
We had some visual arts classes, but we didn't learn a thing. Teachers came and left; we had like one new teacher every 2 years or so. And they were like meh, the students were 'meh', I really find this unfortunate and I strongly consider that in every school and college there should be Art history.

In college it is ALL about the study of music, so it's beyond ''general education''.


4. At college, yes, I do. We have really really great teachers, and at composition we have amazing composers, and we have so much to learn from them!


5. From what I know, we will have some managament-thingie courses later on.
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Veronica1600 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Student General Artist
3. The school itself does not put much emphasis on artwork, however we artists fight against that and end up making a statement about the importance of art. ^^ We show them who can succeed.
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TimberWulfe Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool. I'm going back to school for 9th grade in 4 DAYS!!! I'm also turning 14 then also!!! I'm actually excited for school for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE!!!! Though I hate the summer reading stuff...I'm almost done with the first on and half way done with the last on (I had to read 2 books, one required and one of the three on a list. I was forced to read a book with love mush in it, which I don't like love mush, which was: If You Come Softly, and the other book I picked was based during the WW II time, and knowing me, I picked it because I love learning about the wars, though I don't agree with it, but it is interesting, and that book was: Good Night, Mr. Tom.)
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horsebutt11 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Student Filmographer
This was a wonderful read. The words are as inspiring as Lindsay's paintings. I can't help but feel like i'm not trying hard enough in comparison to her double enrollment. I am attending a university in wisconsin which I have enjoyed very much so far. Because of the economical sense it makes to stay here, I am hopefull that as long as I try to go above and beyond the expectations of my professors, I should be able to come out with just as good a chance at a career in illustration as a private art school student.
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Yuiru Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011
I hate you :rage:
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Mina-The-Cat Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011
Back to school, you lazy butts! XD
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kailali Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great!!!! :D
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ixnivek Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Student Digital Artist
today began my new journey in art after switching from nursing....

took Design I, Printmaking I and Art History....feel kind of excited....
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Angelic-Alchemist Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011
okay..i am in engineering school...but who says you can't be an artist by studying in an engineering school >.<
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Ford1114 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Student General Artist
I'm a high school graduate of the Class of 2011. I plan to start off in a community college to build up a portfolio (I didn't do one in senior year because I don't have enough art classes. In detailed I only take Drawing I in sophomore year and Drawing II in my last year, all because of schedule constraints. Plus in 10th grade I'm also a transfer student.).

I am hoping that I will have enough art classes to have lots of great pieces, and I need help from the teachers because they help these students in the studio art program (which I am in) to transfer to various 4 year colleges. I'm going to transfer to Massart in wanting to do illustration. The more I plan out early and practice, the better.
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shoujo-sugar Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm a nursing student, huzzah! Art is my real dream, nursing is my job. Conflict? YOU BET. ;____;
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iwflyaway Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist
I'm still in highschool (Senior wow thats weird) ... I just hope that my doodles don't cover up all my answers again...
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Roeyl Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Student General Artist
3.
I'm 16 and currently entering the most prestigious school of the state (Pyrénées) and one of the top 10 prep school of France (stressful actually, since everyone tells me I'll have to work night and day), but there is no art classes of any kind there as the school is only known for its scientific values.

4.
I do not, and never took, any art classes. As a self-taught artists, I do these studies by my self, with the help of books and a good lot of museums (France is great for that), though I do plan to go to Art schools after I graduate (like the Beaux-Arts), so I can pursue an Artistic career (which is what nobody understands before I show them my drawings, as everyone [especially adults] primarily look at my grades in scientific subjects and English [as if only that counts! Adults are obsessed with education :) ])

5.
My Art education is mainly academic, as I use my artistic skills only for Art at this point, and the pleasure of doing something of quality. Though this is to change; the only place where my Art is exposed is deviantART, otherwise my works stay safely stored, only to be revealed to interested visitors.
deviantART muro drawing Comment Drawing
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jasjuliet Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student General Artist
Freshman year of Graphic Design @ School of Visual Arts in NYC :) I'm terribly excited. Terrified too.
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BeautifulPhotograph Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student Photographer
I'm in the art IB program at my school . this is totally inspiring
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aploosa Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011   Interface Designer
NA VERDADE EU GOSTO DA IDEIA DE AS PESSOAS PERGUNTAREM SE EU FIZ UM CURSO E EU DIGO NÃO A EXPRESSÃO DAS PESSOAS MOSTRA COMO REALMENTE SOU BOA! E ELAS ME ELOGIAM MAIS
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Renee093 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
My plan was to take an Ap Art class while in highschool,then go to community college (my gpa wouldn't allow me to go to some big whig college right away, and I dont want to get thrown into college life at a 4 year school just yet) after community college apply to an art school. Most likely the Art institute of Seattle or maybe even Cornish
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DaneWolfeh Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Hpnestly, long journal-ish thing is long. :XD: But... I kind of started homeschooling, which is a bad-ish start, since all the molestors and drug dealers in Fort wayne. :iconcryforeverplz: I'm only turning 13! Respect thy little ones! x'D Still, I'm self-taught. I don't know if they're gonna force me to take online art classes or not. ^_^ I'd design a background (mabye a simple drawing of Alphonse Elric) for my schooling PC. Has anone done that? o3o
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OBardoShaolin Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
She's so beautifull... :P
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spacingOUTasWEspeak Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011   Traditional Artist
1. At my high school, no art classes are required to graduate, but they can be used for credit to graduate.
2. I feel that I am aquireing skills, information, and other things that I need for a career in art at my school, but it all depends on the teacher. I've had art teachers that I didn't feel I learned anything from, and everything they did was "my way or the highway". But the teacher I have now is wonderful, she's really helped me to think out of the box with my art, and helped me and other students in the class to think about how certain aspects of an artwork affect the person viewing it. The quality of the art education you get really depends on how the teacher teaches you, and how much they allow you to be creative with your own work.
3. My art classes at school have definitely helped me to get better at making deadlines. Even if you feel like there isn't much you can learn from an art class at public school, or because of a certain teacher, the class might help you to get a good view of what working a job in art might be like when you have to do certain things by a certain time, among other things that you may find useful.
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Th3Pr0f355ion41 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
good call. i completely agree.
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spacingOUTasWEspeak Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011   Traditional Artist
Thanks. I'm glad you agree. :)
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Th3Pr0f355ion41 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
haha np.
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SilverDeni Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Hehe, graduated from an Art High school last year, studied for complete 4 years. Now I am studying at a University of Arts & Design. :) what they said there is pretty much true, only thing is that you get teachers/professors to guide you, the art and your way of understanding only depends on you, we all have different ways of perceiving.
I've learned many techniques thorough the years, I'm still self-taught in some aspects.
However, I agree with some people, she didn't really answer the first question.
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kungfudemoness Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Professional Photographer
I'm currently in my second year now and I'm majoring in photography but I'm also taking graphic design classed as a minor
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Temarinde Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've done one year of artschool but ran out of money. It was the best school year ever. But not being able to pay for the expenses means its back to biochemistry with me.
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Joiijo Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
I'm a senior in high school, but I am currently attending as a resident at UNC School of the Arts for their high school program in the field of visual arts. Art classes only started a few days ago, but the instructors are great. The work here is very tedious for both arts and academics, but I am so glad I'm here, and able to stay right on top of work.

For college, I have very much planned to stay here for Design & Production (Theater Visual Arts: stage, makeup, props, costume, lighting, etc.) However, I am also willing to take other art colleges into consideration. We have many prestigious schools that specifically visit the visual art students in the fall for something that I would almost consider "recruitment." Being in this program also makes me applicable for great scholarships.

I worked terribly hard to get here with this wide array of opportunities that I have, and I have no regrets.
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strawberry-girl-hero Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
next year i plan on going to SCAD university. im going to study sequential art and animation. I find that being an artist is one of the most humbling careers out there. you have to accept within yourself that you still have more to learn and will keep striving to achieve it no matter what. and the continuous critics you get.
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SKTAF Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Student Digital Artist
hmmm i skip question 1 and 2 for deviants because i've not started art college yet! (will be in two weeks!!!)

as for the 3-5 questions about art classes in highschool- i totally felt i learned a lot. i took 6 out of 8 available art classes at my school. Visual I and II, 3D with ceramics and 3d w/ceramics advanced, Commercial design, and Printmaking and bookbinding. Visual III and IV were the only two i didn't get a chance to take XD upon taking all those classes i used ALL the artwork i had done and/or recieved ribbons on (i have 20 ribbons including best of show 3D (*flaunts* :D) in my portfolio when i sent it in for reviewing at the college i was interested in. I got excellent rating on my portfolio. (my adviser (the one that helps sign up/general info for college etc) said he could now count on both hands how many Excellents the president had given since the start of the school XD

so, yes i feel that my art classes helped me not only with practice and pushing me in advanced courses but also help me build an acceptable portfolio that helped me get into the next level of education which will further help me in career choice :nod:

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GreyWolf94 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Ugh! fuck high school. -_-
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xXtribalotusXx Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011
I went to culinary school in north florida. it was a positive experience and helped me to use food in such a way that it's flavor itself was art, food tasted like itself in a brillian way. and I became a better chef for it!
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OneLoveOneFate Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
My brothers going to art school! And I plan on following in his footsteps! :) I'm really glad I discovered deviantart! All the unique wonderful stuff that is on here is amazing! <3
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LovelessNirvana Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm in my third year of college and I was required to take one class in the Arts field. I could take more if I had the time or available credit, but being a full time student and part time worker with a major in English rather than Arts, I can't.

No, I learned a few things about perception I really appreciated but otherwise didn't learn anything signifigant about art or how to gain employment as an artist. Most of what I learned about art was in high school. I had a lot of time and the classes were free. I think I had taken five or so arts classes by graduation and my teacher was always up front with me about job potential. She also helped me enter my work in competitions and apply for art school. In college, there's a lot of stuff going on and money really comes into play.
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ashbasher22 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm still in 16+ at school still but I am learning art very well!!!! X3
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OBardoShaolin Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
How?
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ashbasher22 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
simple!!! :D Just keep drawing!!! ;3
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OBardoShaolin Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Lol, sounds simple!
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ashbasher22 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
simple as compare the comparethemeercat.com. simples *erm*!!! :lol:
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ordonlink Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Okay in schools in Oregon art is not important and has never been essential. We often overlook the importance of art in our daily life. It is sad how we do not encourage students to pursue their love for art. Even in some of the art classes I take the professor does not teach us the essential skills to keep up with modern day life. Oregon has a few great art institutes but they are rarely used for students believe in their high school years that art is not important. Even though art is the best way to express their emotions and who knows they might have unique style of art that may change the worlds view on things. So I love this entire article and I appreciate the subject. Thanks for letting me join deviant!
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Lersso Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I am currently starting my studies, but sadly I don't study art but furniture designing. But I guess that allows for some artistic freedom. At least to a certain extent.

Studying is a bit of a necessary evil. You need to in order to establish a career. Sadly you can't really create much of a career as an artist since there is no real demand for that. You have to survive somehow in this crazy world where you have to pay for rent and every goddamn electric bill and pther expenses. I say this out of experience, cause you have to make up your mind whether you opt to study and work in a more viable field for 40 years only to regret it or rather choose to do something you like but from which you don't get much in return. It's hard to balance with something you enjoy and something you just have to do.

Prior to me now starting my studies with furniture designing I had studied sociology for a whole year. I found that it wasn't my kind of thing. I felt that the studies were buring and uninspiring. I would always rather draw and paint pictures rather than read and write reports.
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Temarinde Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Same here. I've done one year of artschool but ran out of money. I need a job so I can keep on drawing. Now I've the crazy plan to exploit my skills in sciences and study biochemistry (lab-tech pretty much) and after that simply go and work part-time. Why is live so expensive?!
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LovelessNirvana Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
I agree with you. After high school, the topic of money holds most of your important decissions and you have to decide which sacrifice you're willing to make. Very few people become famous clothing designers, game creators, or make a decent living painting. It's sad but a fact.
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shadowzabimaru Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Student General Artist
-How much emphasis is placed on the arts as an essential part of any student's general education in your school?
Sadly, NONE. ABSOLUTELY none. I am not even able to take art CLASSES in my high school, the only art course they offer this year is Art History (which i am taking of course). It really is hard for me, to be in a school where there isn't even the possibility of the most basic art education. Art is just not valued as an academic subject here. I really really hate this.


In your art classes, do you feel you are acquiring the skills and information that could lead to a real career in the arts?
Heh, like i said, my school doesn't offer art classes.


Great topic by the way =)

Is your art education mainly academic or does it include current useful real world applicability to serve your needs?
My art education is mainly an art class i go to in the afternoons twice a week with a local painter. It is purely fine art: painting and drawing. He also teaches us some art theory, and he's a huge help to me =). The rest of my art i just do on my own (which is most of it), and find out what i can on my own.
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LoneNinjaKuya Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Student Photographer
I am Attending at a Ivy Tech College in Columbus Indiana and this Ivy Tech campus is amazing. The Vicual Communications class is awesome and with Columbus being a huge art place for artist of all sorts this is was the best place for to go to.

My advice to to Deviants going to a arts school is that you got to keep a open mind to everything. you will meet epople that will say that your art is hrrible and you will meet people where they say you art is amazing. You must not give up becuase it is a trail and error type of life.

When i went to High School any form of art was frowned upon until i went to a Career tech school while i was in high school. there art was encouraged more and thats how i got into the photography world. and once i went to college for Photography art is a part of everyone's life.

In my classes i am taking in college i am learning a lot of things.

My art education is for academic and real life purposes.
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ColorfulMaya Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011  Student General Artist
Amazing interview, great reading and works, too.
Let me say something about my recent experiences:
I am a 'gonna-be-artist', as I call myself. But it's a half-true. When I'll finish my 4-year high school, I'd have to be a GRAPHIC DESIGNER, not real ARTIST. I wanted to study "applied painting", but this specialization is at private high school and our family wouldn't have enough money to pay for this. So I had to choose school without school fees (yes, I have to bought all books, materials, colours, brushes and so, but it's much cheaper without fees). It's not so easy at all, because we had to learn a bit from everything - photography, making web pages, 3D works&designs (which I don't like so much), drawing, painting, history&theory of art, PC graphics + general lessons like foreign languages, literature etc.
When I'll look further, I know that I won't sell any of my works for an astronomic amounts... I wanna work with books, doing some illustrations, book covers... or just study the history&theory of art, which means I need to spend at least next 3 years at school (university? college? dunno how to describe that kind of school - Institute of Art and Design in our city or something more difficult at the capital city). Our government wants to change things about school fees at universities (paying at every kind of school, not just private ones), so maybe I will not continue with study after final exams from high school. In our country is often hard to do what you always wanted to do as your job, I know a lot of people who have their original profession just like a hobby and/or work somewhere out of their specialization.
But I am still fighting for my coloured future and I also hope that one day I will do what I want to do - TO MAKE SOME ART (not war, heh).
If you wanna study art, you have to work very hard - one of my personal quotes and I'm still trying to follow it!
That's all, bye! :-)
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