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CodePLZ - What is the plan?

Journal Entry: Wed Jul 20, 2011, 4:32 PM
:idea: The plan, in part, is to have a discussion.

As we began to examine the Emoticons category we quickly learned that we had a bit of a mess to clean up, but fortunately it's a very cute mess and very fun to think about. :D

As a category, Chat Friendly Emotes isn't going to cut it anymore. There are Emotes in it that come from various inspirations, meanwhile,  a very clear culture that has formed around Emotes that deviantART specifically has always supported. The ones that are 15 x 15 pixels in size doing all wonders of things. Providing a category for this specific, and very popular style is a must and this would split those  Emotes from intermingling with other sized, shaped and styled Emotes.

The thought was to make this style reside within the new category, "Chat Friendly PLZ" but let's discuss that! Changing a category name takes us a matter of seconds to do, so we would love your input on the final name for the category - home to the adorable Emotes we all love! :love:

A second type and style has taken off at deviantART over the past number of years, which is about Emotes but also about all manner of easy referencing within the deviantART community as a media language of its own. These are referred to as PLZ accounts.

:iconfeelingfreeplz:


For reference, people are creating deviantART accounts solely for the purpose of using the 50x50 user icon space, to take advantage of the " iconNAME " media code for use within any text box on deviantART.


This is happening at a rate of 250 PLZ :iconomgextremeplz: accounts per day! An incredible amount of work surrounding this can be simplified, so that PLZ artists can focus on making fun PLZ media codes instead of making dummy accounts.

We want support this by enabling a registry for media codes of a few types. Our cute culture of 15x15 pixel Emotes, allowing those to be up to 25x50 in size but requiring the correct style and a transparent background to ensure "Chat Friendliness." the PLZ culture permitting codes between 25x50 and 50x50. And the last being yet another emerged culture of Emotes that are "full thumb" in size, or 150x150, which were spawned by the thumb size limitation of deviantART thumbnails of 150x150 so that they  could display in full within our browse environments.

On top of this we need to separate out Static Emotes from Animated Emotes. :work:

Ultimately pulling from this registry would allow us to limit use of these media codes by type, with our chat friendly Emotes being permitted to work in all areas, and maybe "small 50x50's" too, and the large ones working in places like the forums where they are most welcome.

Ideally this conversation should extend to how cool such a registry is, and how much other sites would love to use it. And I think while there is an affinity towards only having these codes on deviantART, perhaps this is an excellent art project to provide the open web with, for free, for use with all manner of networks out there, who as we all know are suffering with what could be considered, "rather crappy Emotes by comparison" -  if we do say so ourselves. :giggle:

This is the thought behind codeplz.com, a solution to the complexity of design initially presented by the "Emoticon Dictionary Project" that has been delayed so many times mostly because it was hard to conceptualize how to do it well, while taking in to consideration all of the above sub cultures and also providing architecture to expand with more types as new styles arise in the future.

We are not releasing any of this for use without a lot more conversation about it, nor without your explicit permission, so please,  do not worry about that. :dalove:

So, with all that said, what are your thoughts?


:heart: $Moonbeam13

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:icontexasdreamer01:
Lists! Yes! :iconfuckyeaplz:

Are they going to be further sub-divided into emotions? Because that would be so useful it wouldn't even be funny. :stare:
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:icondragonwriter142:
Ummm....English plz?
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:iconstuck-in-suburbia:
`stuck-in-suburbia Dec 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is this going anywhere at all? Or are we going to put the categories back the way they were to reduce the giant influx of miscats since this was implemented?
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:icontimothymh:
~timothymh Sep 14, 2011  Student General Artist
So, would this mean I could use my emoticons in my comments? The whole second half of this blog entry I found quite confusing.

Also, what exactly is codeplz.com?
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:iconmusou-enrai:
~Musou-Enrai Sep 4, 2011  Hobbyist
I do wonder about the PLZ icons sometimes myself. It's quite unusual to use accounts for smileys. But I'm not complaining. They offer quite the diversity in emotion expression. I only fear that dA could get overcrowded with too many emotionicon accounts. I mean, no need to go overboard, right?
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:iconv-starr:
~V-Starr Sep 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?

So what we're thinking about doing here is having a category to submit icons and have them being able to use all over dA without the use of making a PLZ account. If so, I think that sounds like a great idea since it'll be easier to find the right PLZ to fit the mood.

I don't understand most of this and I can see I'm not alone. I personaly think that if it causes this much confusion, it's most likely not worth it.
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:iconsooty123:
*Sooty123 Sep 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconwerewolfplz: :icondeviantartplz: :iconbegplz: :icondogplz: :iconlionkingplz: :iconbaltoplz: :iconaltairplz: :iconthesimsplz: :iconblackfootplz: :iconwalkingcatplz: :iconburgerkingplz: :iconfantaplz: :iconwafflesplz: :iconnyancatplz: :iconmsnplz: :iconbffplz: :iconwolfwinkplz: <-- just a few of my favourites!
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:iconkillmariolovebowser:
Mood: Excited ~KillMarioLoveBowser Sep 1, 2011  Student Writer
PLZes as emotes? :iconlegaspplz: YAY!!! :iconexplodelaplz:
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:iconskatora:
~Skatora Aug 31, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like having the actual plz accounts. It's really fun to browse through the various "deviants" and find new plz-emotes through comments and journals fellow deviants have left on the plz's profile page.

For example, let's say I'm angry at something, so I want to put an emote to show that I disagree. I want an icon like ":angered:" but I don't want deviantART's emote for anger... Because I don't want to come off too strongly and ignite a full-caps rage. Instead, I'll type in ":icon angrerplz:" And this is what I get:

:iconangerplz:

That's hilarious! Plus, it's easy to access, even if you didn't know it exisited (Gosh, I typed :mad: :angry: :anger: and only after I checked the emote list did I find :angered: :eyeroll: ...:iconeyerollemoteplz: With the plz-account, I simply have to type in a word and put "plz" at the end of it and most likely someone has made a plz for it). And when I visit that plz-page, my fellow deviants have posted up comments with more wonderful plz-accounts. A particular favorite is: :iconiknowwwplz:

Together, these two images conjure up exactly how I'm feeling in a way that is non-aggressive to others. And if I didn't like the icon for ~angerplz, I can scroll through the comments, find a plz that better suits me, visit that page, and continue looking until I find the plz that works perfectly for my mood.

I think I good way of handling plz-accounts is to make them sort-of like groups; so that deviants can have the ease of finding and using them, but the actual account wouldn't be a proper deviantART account, y'know?
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:iconlablayers:
~LabLayers Aug 25, 2011  Student Interface Designer
:iconllamatruckplz:
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