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Coming Soon: A Unified Submission Process!

Journal Entry: Tue May 31, 2011, 3:21 PM
We're always trying to improve the deviantART member experience. While many of our site upgrades are taken directly from community feedback, every once in a while we (administrators) need to trust our instincts. For many years, our gut was telling us that submitting content to deviantART was becoming bloated. Not only was it confusing for new deviants, but we found that there was redundancy in the systems as well as the content. We needed a fix. We made a fix. And it's coming soon!

:star:  A Unified Submission Process
There will soon be a single system to submit all content. What's that mean? Well, all new content (including deviations, journals, group blogs, and news articles) will be be submitted from a single page. So, you will have a single publishing platform, and you will be able to decide where it should be posted -- whether in your journals, news, or gallery. This page will have a snazzy WYSIWYG editor, allowing for rich editing of your posts.



:star:  All Content Will Become Deviations
With the single submission page, all content will be transitioned to our deviation infrastructure. So, yes, journals will become deviations. Nutty, eh? With that, you'll get all the benefits of the deviation system such as: being able to :+fav: journals, hiding journals from non-deviants, sharing settings, storage, blog searching, comment disabling on group blogs, journal :thumb: codes, and more!  (And fear not, the Journal tab on Profile Pages will still exist, as will Journal notifications in Message Centers.)

        


:star:  Re-posts
With the merger, we thought it would be awesome if you could re-post to different locations (e.g., as a group blog and your journal). Additionally, we designed it so that other members will be able to "feature" your blog in their journal.  With reposting, full attribution will be given to the original author, with comments, replies, and favs going to the author's Message center.




Did you catch all that? Good! :bucktooth:
So, be sure to keep an eye out. These updates will be coming to a neighborhood near you quite soon. :eager:

Deviously Yours,
-Matt
aka `mattdanna
:iconmattdanna:

:star:  Eager for more info? Here's some Q&A with a couple of our Product Managers, $pachunka and `OnlyTheGoodNotes, who worked on this change:

Of these new changes just initiated at dA, which do you feel are most significant and why?
$pachunka: I think it's really exciting that we're giving Journals & News a boost - actually being able to add them to your Favourites area, and getting extra options that deviations have had for a long time - it just makes some really cool combinations - like critique-requests on news, or submitting a blog entry to multiple groups, like you can with deviations.
`OnlyTheGoodNotes: As somebody who is relatively new to dA, it has taken a while for me to understand the current ecosystem (10 years worth of stuff!). What I've found though is that there is some incredible content buried beneath the layers. My hope is these changes will help simplify the architecture of the site, which will make it easier to find, share, and contribute that great content.

Regarding this change in the submission process What has been a personal pet peeve of yours that has now been resolved?
$pachunka: Well, there's some pretty exciting -other- stuff coming to submission soon that solves every pet peeve I've ever had with submission in my life, -but- in the case of these changes, I'd say it's the attractiveness of the literature-writing environment - it's meant to be an artistic environment, and the old literature text box ain't pretty. That, and the 'publish' step makes it much easier to understand what-is-actually-getting-submitted-where for brand new deviants.

Can you give examples of what you feel members have been frustrated in trying to do in the past – which have now hopefully become doable?
$pachunka: I've seen "I wish I could +fav this journal" written a lot - so that's totally taken care of. I also think this is a start for making literature submissions much less stressful to make - since you don't need to know any special code tricks to get basic formatting! Oh, and being able to put deviation thumbnails in your journal is something we should have had ages ago - that's gonna be great - something premium members have had for a long time, that now everybody gets to play with.
  
With these new improvements, how do you feel about the direction that dA is heading in?
`OnlyTheGoodNotes: It makes me incredibly excited about the future. It shows me that we can not only respond to users, but also continue to innovate. We can not only respond to the community, but also raise the stakes. There's a lot of great stuff on the way.


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*AngelicDragonPuppy Oct 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Ewwwww, the new journals look gross e___e I'm sorry but it looks like I'm reading a literature submission, and I'm... not. Please keep people's venty journals separate from refined stories, please.
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:icon27imaginarylines:
>_> just because netflix tried to split their content and it = FAILed doesn't mean unification = WIN....
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:iconnorarosewillard:
hi what are you doing
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:iconrites-of-passage:
*rites-of-passage Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
i like the fact that you can fave journals and have journal thumbs posted! i've been wanting to fave some journals for the past month that i've been here (behindinfinity's journals, for example) :excited:

However, if dA would turn journals into deviations, that's a whole new story! See, some deviants (like damaged927, izka197, missimoinsane, keiichi93 and armonah to name a few) use their news articles mainly for contests and features only, while some news articles of other people I noticed are being used to scam dA members. I don't think such things count as real deviations as compared to paintings, photographs, artisan crafts, and artistic writing..

In unison with what runningbear5858 [link] retki [link] and gee231205 [link] said here, I also don't want my journals/news articles to turn into deviations that may most likely receive 20 or so faves but not one constructive comment, just as what typically happens in facebook and tumblr.. At the moment, I don't have any cute or useful journal/article but once i do, I don't want them to be counted as deviations on the 'statistics' bar on my front page.. Phantomllama's poll idea [link] would be a great way to know if deviants like this submission process..

If dA is gonna push through with this thing though, it would be awesome if there will exist an option which allows the deviant to choose whether or not he likes the journal/article he has written ages ago or is just about to submit
    1. to be counted as a deviation which can be faved or
    2. simply as an ordinary journal/article which cannot be faved and cannot be counted as deviation
    3. and then later edit the option to change what he has chosen for each journal/article..
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~UJz Oct 21, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Its great to see the journal re-posts feature: really useful, the only think I dislike is journals having the favs and views feature.
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~ShadowedLove97 Oct 20, 2011  Student Writer
I don't know how I feel about this.....I don't submit many journals but...I don't think they should be counted as deviations...I don't know.
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~Seraphoid Oct 20, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
sweet! :dance:
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:iconangelicdragonpuppy:
*AngelicDragonPuppy Jul 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Aha, wait, I see that journals would still show up separately in one's inbox... but if they're still treated separately, then why on earth are they counting as 'deviations' in a deviation counter? I make a lot of journals, and I find it annoying when I can't tell how many images I have in my gallery versus how many random goofy journals I've made.

A lot of the other stuff seems odd with the way to submit them and stuff too. Also, if you're going to give non-members the ability to submit thumbs, can you, y'know, give them back the ability to keep auto-full view permanent? I hear my buddies are missing it. And I still insist that people could just stick journals they like in folders if they want to keep them. It kind of seems silly to give journals all the privileges of deviations when, y'know, they aren't deviations. This is a site about art, not about who can make the most popular blogs. Other people were comparing this to the facebook 'like.' And I have to admit, this seems like it'll attract more people who just want to come here and blog--rather then come here and, well, art.
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:iconnotepadgirl:
"Also, if you're going to give non-members the ability to submit thumbs, can you, y'know, give them back the ability to keep auto-full view permanent? I hear my buddies are missing it."
:worship::happycry: thank you...
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:iconangelicdragonpuppy:
*AngelicDragonPuppy Nov 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, least I could do was say it, although I doubt mods'll listen X'D
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