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The deviantART Stock Project with Fotolia

Journal Entry: Wed Oct 13, 2010, 4:46 AM
You might recall that several times during the past few months, we asked community members for feedback and input regarding the state of stock resources on deviantART.  After much research, including digging through and taking into account each and every comment left by deviants, we’ve decided to start down the path of building a fully integrated commercial stock offering on deviantART.  In doing so, we will dedicate resources to accomplish this in a way that uniquely reflects the community and serves its special interests and needs.  

We’re starting off with two important initiatives: a partnership with Fotolia.com and the deviantART Stock Project (#StockProject).

We’ve chosen to partner with Fotolia, a leading microstock provider worldwide, for their extensive collection of commercial stock assets and their expertise.  Here’s why:

:bulletgreen:  it consistently offers the best prices for stock
:bulletgreen:  it consistently offers the best split for artists who make stock
:bulletgreen:  it has an international footprint
:bulletgreen:  perhaps most importantly, it has a management attitude that understands the importance to their business of developing community as resource -- a point of view not shared by any of its competitors

Starting immediately, Fotolia is making all of its stock art available to the deviantART Stock Project through a special portal.  Go, take a look, sign up, and browse over 10 million pieces of stock assets!  Their use agreements are simple, straightforward, and well-managed.  If you need commercial stock for your projects, the deviantART Stock Project on Fotolia should make your creative life a whole lot easier.

The second step we’ve taken on this exciting project is that we’ve put together a new group called the deviantART Stock Project.  We want this group to become the focus of discussion in the community about how we should design and implement a stock offering directly on deviantART, which started months ago with the first #hq blog post about stock on deviantART.  Our goal here is to find a way to maintain the incredibly vibrant stock community already active on deviantART, retain every deviant’s right to participate in that community, and also create a well-organized commercial stock offering.  People will come to deviantART to use our stock collections and that will focus attention -- and sales -- on deviants that produce stock.

We encourage you to take a look around the deviantART Stock Project group and participate with your suggestions and input.  We’ve posted some great educational materials on microstock, other articles of interest, and even a bunch of free stock images (totally free!) courtesy of Fotolia.

This is only the very beginning of a process leading to the best stock offering out there -- because it will be the only stock offering designed by artists for artists.  We may bump around a bit.  As we experiment here and there, we expect to make some minor mistakes. But we assure you we will work as hard as we can to get it right by keeping deviants directly involved in and excited about the deviantART Stock Project as it evolves.

:pointr:  :pointr:  :pointr:  Get started!  #StockProject  :pointl:  :pointl:  :pointl:

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:iconsheber:
Will premium members have access to free commercial stock downloads?
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:iconkymscave-stock:
If the choice of wether I can provide free stock as well as get paid for some that will be fine..(I get to choose which)
If the choice of providing only free stock is removed then I will no longer wish to be a part of DA
I will take my stock and offer it elsewhere...
I will want to know a lot more about what is intended before I commit to anything.....

"The Choice is MINE to make" :worker:
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:iconben-8956:
It sound iterate
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:iconeazybee:
Paying for stock = NOT good imo. You are taking the word deviant right out of your own namesake. Just be careful how you integrate this option if you decide to go forward with it.
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:iconnebu:
`nebu Oct 28, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
so this is not just "dA only" stock?
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:iconcrimson-demise:
~Crimson-Demise Oct 28, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know it's rather silly to worry about EVERY stock artist choosing to only sell their work, but I know that won't happen.

I can understand how some artists would choose to sell their better, higher quality work, but this creates a bit of a problem:

Low quality stock for most of us who simply can't afford or have the means to purchase things online.

For an artist like me who rarely uses stock for things other than simple reference. this doesn't exactly pose much of a problem. But I certainly DO know the importance of having a good quality image to reference from.

...

Okay, I'll stop typing now. I've confused myself and probably didn't even convey my point correctly. :B
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:iconharleyquinnade:
DeviantART has always been a godsend to me because I am still not allowed to make online transactions, as I am still a teenager.

I love this site, because people in this community actually share their work and quality resources for free, and this allowed me to grow into a better artist.

Having to pay for quality stock images will only restrict me in terms of creating new artwork, and I'm sure many of the other deviants are in my position because if this comes through, I won't get access to images I want to use.

I get that stock artists should get something back for providing stock, but not getting paid certainly did not stop them from providing stocks previously. Besides, there are already stock artists selling exclusive stocks in their own websites, and if they really wanted to get paid, they would have already set up an account with other stock providing websites long ago and sell their stocks there.

I really hope that if this does come through, there would still be good quality stocks that is free for people to use, otherwise not a lot of people would have excess to it.
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:icontexasdreamer01:
I agree - but only if it's on the superbly popular ones and/or ones that are being used without citing their sources, and only if it's with the artist's express permission. I'm not claiming to know Fotolia well, the people who make often-used stock should have the opportunity to earn something a bit more tangible off of it; this could be a move to help safeguard artists' copyrights because there are a lot of people that steal others' art. Maybe a test run for six months or so?
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:iconoddband:
~oddBand Oct 27, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Man, I really... Really don't like this idea.
Stock from dA always has been and always will be the best, in my opinion.
Being entirely free has always been a part of that. The ability for stock providers to watermark their stock and offer it elsewhere has always been available.
But no one is going to really want stock that badly that they will pay for it on dA.
I really hope you guys realize that and listen to the users before bad decisions are made.
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:icongwenthyr:
*Gwenthyr Oct 26, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess that high quality stock is worth some money if it's used for commercial purpose. It's only fair to share some money you got for the picture with the one who created a part of it too. But I don't think there will be many people who would pay for stock to create something for fun. I don't see dA as primarily commercial site from the point of a common deviant. I mean, majority of us isn't here to sell, but to share, socialize, improve or just look, even if it's nice to get paid time to time. For my part, whatever happens even if I will ever make high quality stock, I will always offer it for free, at least for use here on dA. If I wanted to get paid, I would go elsewhere with that. I don't use stock myself but if I did I would like to still have the option to get it free here.
So to summarize. I would let the stock artist decide if they want to get paid for the particular stock when they upload it as new deviation (with options like - paid, paid when commercially used, free). Of course there should be some criteria for image size and such to even be able to make it paid stock. Otherwise I guess that what is "quality stock", regarding the theme or complexity, is quite disputable so I would let it be. Who will think it's worth the money will pay for it, simple as that.
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