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deviantPOINTS: An update

Journal Entry: Thu Jul 28, 2011, 1:24 PM
Over the past few months we’ve been keeping a watchful eye on the way that members in our community have been offering points as payment for certain types of services within deviantART. We’ve seen all sorts of creative uses, from offering to critique your work for a few points, journal features for a few more points and my personal fav -- avatars, journal skins and any other sort of art commission for points.  It’s been great to see deviants use their experience and skills to fund their super group upgrades, prints purchases and even treating their friends and families to their very first item of deviantWEAR.

As time rolled on, we noticed a new trend creeping in. People were not just offering a small number of points for a task that they’d normally do as part of their daily deviating -- people were offering thousands of page views for hundreds of points, and there seemed to be no limit to the amount that could be purchased, or offered. It didn’t feel right, but we wanted to make sure that you guys agreed with us - and of course you did. So we’ve made some changes to reflect how we all feel about this matter of people essentially exploiting the system -- and ultimately exploiting you, the community.

FAQ #895: Can I offer an automated service on deviantART in exchange for deviantPOINTS?

You may not use or offer any script, bot or any other automated 3rd party service in exchange for deviantPOINTS. If you are looking to increase your exposure within the community, you may wish to consider our AdCast service as an alternative option.

Deviants offering excessive and automated services in exchange for points will have their submissions detailing the offer removed, and your account may also face additional suspension should you attempt to bypass our policies.

This policy covers any “POINTS-for” scheme involving a machine-driven attempt to show false results in a member’s statistical or performance-based metrics on deviantART. You may never use POINTS to solicit a vote from a member of deviantART in any participatory voting process conducted by deviantART.


In addition, you’ll now find an amendment to the deviantART Points Terms & Conditions, which reflects these changes. We’ve highlighted the changes below, however you can view the full agreement here.





We’ve also amended our Etiquette Policy to reflect the update. We’ve highlighted the changes for you below, however you can view the whole of the policy here.




We hope that this clarifies our stance on the matter, however if you have any questions please ask! We’re happy to help. :dalove:

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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012   General Artist
:la:

Hooray!~~
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:iconlittlekirara:
LittleKirara Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
[link]

If this is true then you need to have $realitysquared change his journal. You can not get mad at users for doing something several staff members have openly stated that is okay to do.
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:iconraysheaf:
raysheaf Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2011  Professional General Artist
Here a discussion of DA user who is asking and receiving pageviews from bots. [link]
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:iconbewilderedconfused:
bewilderedconfused Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Personally I really don't want someone to offer so many faves or pageviews in exchange for points. I only want someone to fave my work of they really like it. I enjoy giving points just for the pleasure of helping someone get a premium membership or buying something they like or collecting them to give out to others. I do not have any favors tied to my points. They are totally free. :twocents:
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:iconitti:
Itti Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I know I'm late to comment here (I've been away) but this seems like a very odd way of putting it. Surely using bots or scripts to increase pageviews (or whatever) is bad in itself? You make it sound like it's only forbidden in exchange for points. So if someone was doing it for free, or doing it for cash, that would be permitted - which seems a bit strange, but that's what the FAQ and Etiquette Policy seem to imply.
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:iconfenori:
Fenori Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Student
I thought something wasn't right about it.. why would you want to make fake pageviews, I don't get it :I
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:icondirgenesis:
Dirgenesis Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2011  Student General Artist
I whole-heatedly stand behind this decision. Nice to see some action being taken against these miscreants, looking to break the system. Thanks guys, and keep up the great work :D
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:iconxxxmizumixmikoxxx:
xXxMiZuMiXmIkOxXx Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
THANK YOU.
i know i'm late, but THANK YOU.
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:icongisapizzatto:
GisaPizzatto Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Featured: [link]
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:iconsladin5ever:
Sladin5Ever Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
So are you going to ban users with usernames similar to "Pageviewsforpoints" and those that continue to advertise for them? Or are they safe until they have too many strikes against them?
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:iconiceofwolf:
iceofwolf Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you. I was so sick of my deviations being randomly faved five seconds after I click submit and finding it in a cesspit of 30,000 other random faves.
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:iconkatomanx:
katomanX Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011
can I do features for points?? :points: :iconcuriosityplz:
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:icongottalovemushrooms:
GottaLoveMushrooms Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011
Yay, thank you. But the same people also sell :+fav:s for points too... can we have a ruling on that?
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:iconqueen-soulia:
Queen-Soulia Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Hurray my stamp wins : [link] and my campaign against them.. and they said it would never be illegal l huahahahahahhahaha!
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:iconforexus:
forexus Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
owned!
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:iconacg3fly:
acg3fly Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
You can do something as well with the people who offer more than 3500 points for a llama, they offer 3501 =( and it's annoying that, as well the llama trades expires so soon, why is that??
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:iconpein-and-sakura:
Pein-and-Sakura Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2011
Well the best way to fix that would be to raise the limit on a llama transaction. Someone lucky would get 3501 points xD
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:icondavisthesecond:
DavisTheSecond Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
If a persons artistic talents are near or at the beginers stage and their page views are at a stagering amount, it's pretty easy to figure out they were up 2 something irregular.

They are only fooling themselves, you have 2 feel sorry for people like this and reilize the pageviews are like their medication......just hope there is help out there
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:iconsotkettu:
Sotkettu Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
:icongoogleplusone:
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:iconyvonnevetjens:
YvonneVetjens Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Wow, didn't know that could actually happen...you should get your own pageviews by being an active member and actually making work that appeals to people - guess not everyone thinks the same way.
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:iconprincesskooh:
PrincessKooh Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Sad but true :-(



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Free use of Journal Skins to all deviants Aug 1-8 :dummy:
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:iconisgay:
isgay Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
I wonder how many whiny seniors it took for them to finally implement this.

Views can still be increased though. :iconteheplz:
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:iconpageviewlaboratory:
PageviewLaboratory Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011
[link] It's apparently against the rules now :lol:
If mass-faving is ban-able, it's easy to ban someone if detected.
But it's impossible to know who's incrementing someone's pageviews, might raise a little suspicion, but they probably won't ban anybody because of it. Somebody would just try to get someone else banned.
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:iconisgay:
isgay Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011
Considering they have a filter on the faving now (and everything under the sun), it wouldn't be as easy to detect if someone was using some type of automation, assuming they have random increments in their favs, because it could very well be an individual fav'ing quickly. :giggle:

dA could check proxy logs for pageview raising, but I doubt they'd really contact thousands of addresses to attempt to link an IP with an account.

Oh also, note me what happened to !prosaix
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:iconmreviver:
mreviver Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ugh, thank god that the "pageviews for points" thing is banned now. How utterly rediculous for people to want fake views. Its really sad.
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:iconteegeefan911:
TeeGeeFan911 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
I know. :no:
no one gets to see your art; it's just a pointless statistic. It's sad to see people giving points for something which has no use
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:iconaltitudes-butterfly:
Altitudes-Butterfly Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank-you!
I was getting a little worried when I started seeing those botting sort of things creeping up. Dx
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:iconicygumball3000:
icygumball3000 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Student Filmographer
:iconepicclapplz:WELL DONE!:thumbsup:
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:iconsqueekaboo:
squeekaboo Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
I'm happy to see this. Even if page views are not something to be dwelt upon, it really rubs me the wrong way to know that years of user experience on the site can be artificially generated. Of course this wont stop people from doing that, but at least they wont be exploiting the points system in order to achieve it, and at least you're doing -something- to show that this is not approved of.
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:iconilwa:
iLwA Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Student General Artist
:iconclapplz:
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:iconferngaze:
FernGaze Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Good job, dA. :thumbsup:
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:iconphotofairy:
photofairy Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011   General Artist
thank you :thumbsup:
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:iconocm6le3:
Ocm6LE3 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
YES! Finally this stupid "pageviews for points" system is illegal!!!
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:iconprincesskooh:
PrincessKooh Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Hazzah





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Free use of Journal Skins to all deviants Aug 1-8 :dummy:
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:icontinayan:
tinayan Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Student General Artist
wow finally. what a late response.
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:iconawesomelurker:
AwesomeLurker Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
So this can happen but the unwritten rules aren't in the FaQ?::unimpressed:
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:iconlotusbiru:
lotusbiru Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
what a good news!
i'm really glad to hear that. :clap: :clap:
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:iconeintoern:
EintoeRn Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
:iconthumbsupplz:
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:iconsynthes:
synthes Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Professional Interface Designer
:clap:
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:iconkrona:
Krona Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
FANTASTIC!!!
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:iconericforfriends:
EricForFriends Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Professional Photographer
Good. Excellent. Off with their heads! :mwahaha:
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:iconcrocty:
crocty Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
And yet tracing, demotivationals, and short 5 frame gifs of an animation the artist didn't make are still allowed.

Good priorities.
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:iconnoche-estrellada:
noche-estrellada Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This, indeed.
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:iconawesomelurker:
AwesomeLurker Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
Fucking this.
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:iconroyallycrimson:
RoyallyCrimson Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
They didn't bother me.

Personally I think the option to entirely disabling the pageview counter on your own profile page would render all so called scams cq initiatives invalid and useless. I would love to be able to get that option and I think a lot of people here would too.

Also, I don't see any difference to, for instance, the FeatureForPoints groups who ask points for a feature in their journal :shrug:
Or they going to be banned as well?
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:iconhummingbirdsandlions:
HummingbirdsandLions Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There is an option to disable your pageviews. If you go to settings then click on browsing and in the general browsing section you can untick see pageview and you won't see them any more.
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:iconroyallycrimson:
RoyallyCrimson Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
No, those only apply to the galleries you visit, not your own.
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:iconlolly:
lolly Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
You can turn off your own as well.
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:iconroyallycrimson:
RoyallyCrimson Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
So that people who visit my gallery don't see them?
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:iconlolly:
lolly Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011
Yup just click on your statistics at the top, hit edit and choose to make them private.
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